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Mark's avatar

I always thought Marshall McLuhan's definition of charisma was funny and kind of true -- "Charisma means looking like a lot of other people". I always took that to mean, it's not about standing out or being unique, but being a mirror (ahem, paging Dr. Lacan ...) in which people see themselves.

I think Jacques Lacan would say that our desires are shaped by the desires of others and by the social structures and language that surround us - so maybe charisma is just some unconscious embodying of other's people's desires ... that we'll never ever attain!

Great piece, thank you for making my brain churn with your insight!

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Hank Moravec's avatar

Now that is going to be a fun entry to muse on until at least next week! The thing about charisma is not only analyzing what it is, but that despite much analysis it’s almost impossible to acquire, despite millions of humans working at aquiring it.

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skip's avatar

In the immortal words of Justice Stewart (kinda): “I shall not today attempt further to define charisma; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it..."

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James A's avatar

If attractiveness is external beauty, then maybe charisma is internal beauty. A way of seeing the world? Humor? Elegant use of language? Personal art?

I suppose charisma has its dark sides, too. Hiding inner demons? Coping with personal pain?

But if we are all on a collision course with death, maybe the attraction to charisma is that it helps us find more profound moments of beauty and grace.

Because in the end, "all graves go unattended."

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Andrew Hollo's avatar

I love Didion’s writing but never saw this biography. Just picked it up from my local library so thanks. I read this for tennis insights, not book recommendations, so a lovely surprise!

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Gillian Orr's avatar

Nah Andrea, you're both. Charismatic and charming. When I met Brad Pitt (name drop) I asked him to pick out which of my toenails was fake (I was wearing a falsey cos it had come off in a pedicure). Unclear if that counts as charismatic or charming? He, however, was very charming about it. Not sure he remembered my name though. Bill would have obv.

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Andrea Petkovic's avatar

you got so close but you just had to bring in that damned toe nail 😔

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Weston Parker's avatar

Is coming from the Greek, "to favor, a gift, grace". People with charisma have a gift and know how to use it, sometimes unfairly. Great stuff Andrea.

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Bea Contreras's avatar

Well, wrapping up a conversation with somebody who spent an entire day looking for you at a tennis tournament and then saying “nice to meet you, my name is Andrea” is charismatic as fuck, ngl.

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Sung J. Woo's avatar

"Later I found out it actually required much less than that." Thanks for the laugh! So sad and yet so true.

I always thought the soured version of charisma is smarminess...

Great essay! Really dig these musings on theoretical/conceptual subjects. Brava!

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skip's avatar

As a lifelong caterer, now in retirement of a sort different than yours (and more permanent), I had the luck to experience Clinton's charisma both first and second hand. He was already out of office for some time when I saw people giddily run across the street to hug him or shake his hand as he arrived for an event we were working. I experienced his coming back into our makeshift kitchen to shake all our hands and say, "Thank you." And my wife was there as he addressed a crowd at the University of Pennsylvania, the only speaker to talk without notes; she said it was mesmerizing, as if he was talking directly to you with no one else in the room. Charisma *is* a palpable thing but, as you say, one of those things we (so sadly) cannot buy. : (

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Andrea Petkovic's avatar

this is such great insight - thank you 🙏🏻

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Raj's avatar
Aug 16Edited

I know you like watching Rune (great commentary on T2, btw) but he’s such an unlikeable person. Same with Fritz and other spoiled brats who try to act punk rock while they try to raise their images and brands. These guys have zero charm or charisma. I think sincerity and humility play large parts in a person’s likability. That’s why we love Roger, Rafa, and Serena. And that’s why politicians are so untrustworthy. They’ll smile at you while twisting a knife in your stomach (figuratively, of course).

I miss Juan Martin.

P.S. The Libertines have great charisma, too.

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Anna S.'s avatar

I loved the Arctic Monkeys and a boy I liked in high school called me “pseudo music fan” - very toxic. Loved reading this article, I was at Wimbledon last year and I watched Novak play and I was standing there during the whole time thinking “holy shit, I’m meters away from a person who’s one of the best in what he does and I’m watching him do it”. It was honestly incredibly surreal

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Andrea Petkovic's avatar

who is he? let’s find him and bully him about his terrible taste in music like two teenagers!

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Paul's avatar

Joan Didion 'Sloughing Towards Bethlehem'. One of the most iconic photos of post-war American letters, and though she didn't have Brad Pitt around at all those Malibu parties she had a young Harrison Ford, still working as a carpenter and selling pot. So California!

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Martin Swann's avatar

I once met David Bowie in a former life and his charisma filled the room like nobody else famous I ever met.

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Steven Eichenblatt's avatar

Charisma is the ability to connect with the energy in the room…sadly, bad people can manipulate this energy to get others to follow them no matter what they say or do..why do low income families follow Trump who has never done one day of hard work yet dismiss candidates who have worked to achieve their position…charisma counts…

You have it 👍

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Bill Reynolds's avatar

Charismatic, and charmingly droll.

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John Merigliano's avatar

Great subject! Teachers can be charismatic: some use fear to get through to us and others use love. Yet, we are still drawn to them. California beckons.

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